{"id":20597,"date":"2024-03-27T18:07:00","date_gmt":"2024-03-27T23:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/?p=20597"},"modified":"2024-08-15T09:12:07","modified_gmt":"2024-08-15T14:12:07","slug":"rencontre-philosophique-entre-les-classes-de-cm1-cm2-et-terminales-specialite-hlp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/?p=20597","title":{"rendered":"Rencontre philosophique entre les classes de CM1-CM2 et Terminales sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9 HLP"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"20597\" class=\"elementor elementor-20597\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-213eeb7 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"213eeb7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c86c44c e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c86c44c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1b7fc1e elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"1b7fc1e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-17722\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo.jpg 800w, https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo-300x158.jpg 300w, https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo-768x403.jpg 768w, https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo-370x194.jpg 370w, https:\/\/condamine.edu.ec\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/formato-noticia-philo-770x404.jpg 770w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3ab4c5d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3ab4c5d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ebfc8d elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4ebfc8d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Le Mercredi 20 Mars 2024, \u00e0 l\u2019occasion de la semaine de la francophonie, les \u00e9l\u00e8ves de CM1-CM2 de Madame Amandine Tarter ont rejoint les Terminales sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9 HLP (<i>Humanit\u00e9 Litt\u00e9rature et Philosophie<\/i>)\u00a0 de Monsieur Rolland Auda, professeur de philosophie, pour discuter de la libert\u00e9. Le but de cette rencontre \u00e9tait non seulement de permettre aux \u00e9l\u00e8ves de CM2 de discuter avec des plus grands d\u2019un th\u00e8me sur lequel les deux classes, bien qu\u2019\u00e0 des niveaux diff\u00e9rents, ont travaill\u00e9, mais aussi de fluidifier l\u2019utilisation du fran\u00e7ais en jouant des sc\u00e9nettes sur le th\u00e8me de la libert\u00e9 et de ses limites et en d\u00e9battant.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-825d80b e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"825d80b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eb6d79a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"eb6d79a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Les CM1-CM2 ont donc pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 des situations o\u00f9 la libert\u00e9 \u00e9tait ambigu\u00eb, d\u2019autres o\u00f9 la question de la limite de libert\u00e9 \u00e9tait pos\u00e9e. Certaines sc\u00e9nettes mettaient aussi en sc\u00e8ne l\u2019importance des lois dans la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 et de cette phrase c\u00e9l\u00e8bre de John Stuart Mill : \u00ab\u00a0La libert\u00e9 des uns s\u2019arr\u00eate l\u00e0 o\u00f9 commence celle des autres\u00a0\u00bb. Apr\u00e8s avoir pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 leurs petites pi\u00e8ces, les CM1-CM2 ont parl\u00e9 avec les Terminales et leur professeur pour comprendre certaines notions et partager leur point de vue sur certaines situations.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>Ils ont donc d\u00e9battu sur une premi\u00e8re question : Est-ce qu\u2019on choisit toujours de voler ? de tuer ? Est-ce une volont\u00e9 propre, une prise de libert\u00e9, ou bien un acte incontr\u00f4l\u00e9 et incontr\u00f4lable ? Apr\u00e8s avoir discut\u00e9 et partag\u00e9 leurs points de vue, les deux classes sont venues \u00e0 conclure ainsi : voler et tuer n\u2019est pas toujours un choix d\u00e9lib\u00e9r\u00e9 et conscient ; d\u2019aucun peut voler pour subvenir \u00e0 ses besoins, comme c\u2019\u00e9tait le cas par exemple pour Louise M\u00e9nard qui, jeune m\u00e8re, avait vol\u00e9 du pain pour ses enfants alors qu\u2019ils n\u2019avaient pas mang\u00e9 depuis environs deux jours, le juge de l\u2019affaire, Paul Magnaud, avait d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que la jeune femme \u00e9tait en situation d\u2019absolue necessit\u00e9, il avait donc lui m\u00eame rembours\u00e9 le boulanger ce qui lui a valu le surnom de \u201cBon Juge\u201d. C\u2019est la m\u00eame remarque pour le meurtre qui peut \u00eatre commis dans une situation de transe ou d\u2019inconscience morale, ces cas l\u00e0 ne sont donc pas emprisonn\u00e9s mais envoy\u00e9s en h\u00f4pital psychiatrique pour obtenir les soins n\u00e9cessaires.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>Une deuxi\u00e8me question qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 abord\u00e9e est celle du choix : Est-ce qu\u2019avoir le choix est une libert\u00e9 ? A la suite d\u2019un partage d\u2019opinion, M. Auda a aid\u00e9 les deux classes en citant l\u2019exemple du roman de John Stuart Mill :\u00a0Le Choix de Sophie. Roman o\u00f9, durant la Seconde Guerre mondiale, une m\u00e8re est pouss\u00e9e \u00e0 choisir lequel de ses deux enfants devra mourir. Dans ce cas on retrouve le choix : Sophie a la libert\u00e9 de d\u00e9cider qui sera envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 la mort, cependant elle n\u2019est pas\u00a0<i>libre<\/i>. En effet, pour qu\u2019une personne soit libre, il faut que\u00a0<i>tous\u00a0<\/i>les choix possibles lui soient pr\u00e9sent\u00e9s, donc, si on reprend l\u2019exemple du livre\u00a0Le Choix de Sophie, elle aurait d\u00fb pouvoir sauver ses deux enfants.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>La troisi\u00e8me grande question abord\u00e9e \u00e9tait celle-ci : Est-on vraiment libre si on est oblig\u00e9 de suivre des lois ? La r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 cette question a \u00e9t\u00e9 rapidement trouv\u00e9e ; nous ne sommes pas oblig\u00e9s de suivre les lois, c\u2019est \u00e0 nous de choisir si nous les suivons, cependant, en ne les suivant pas, on prend le risque d\u2019\u00eatre puni et\/ou d\u2019\u00eatre rejet\u00e9 par notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9. De mani\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, la notion de libert\u00e9 venait tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9remment d\u2019un \u00e9l\u00e8ve \u00e0 l\u2019autre et chacun avait sa vision de \u201cLibert\u00e9 totale\u201d.<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p>Cette rencontre a permis au CM1-CM2 de se sentir plus \u00e0 l\u2019aise en Fran\u00e7ais et de discuter avec les \u201cgrands\u201d,d\u2019exprimer leurs points de vue. Les Terminales les ont aid\u00e9s \u00e0 d\u00e9velopper leurs arguments et leurs pens\u00e9es, ils les ont aid\u00e9s \u00e0 comprendre la signification de certaines notions.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p><p><strong>Lise DELEAU (\u00c9change ADN du Lyc\u00e9e Fran\u00e7ais de Prague) et<br \/>Mina HARALAMPIEVA (\u00c9change ADN du Lyc\u00e9e Fran\u00e7ais Victor Hugo de Sof\u00eda)<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4518969 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"4518969\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b3e827 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7b3e827\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5e2bd0c elementor-widget 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